Comments on: The Tomb of Sa`d ibn Abi Waqqas

By: Muhammad Iqbal Hussain

Muhammad Iqbal Hussain — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:39:22 +0000

This tomb present in GUANZHOU is not of Hazrat SAAD Bin ABI WAQAS (WHO IS ONE OF ASHRA MUBASHRA)
THIS TOMB IS OF ABI WAQAS (WHO IS DIFFERENT PERSONALITY THAN HAZRAT SAAD BIN ABI WAQAS)

PLEASE MAKE CORRECTION

By: Farooque Ahmed

Farooque Ahmed — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:02:06 +0000

Saad bin Waaqas led a first Arab embassy to Tang China in 651 AD according to Abul Fazl Ezzati, 1994, Introduction to the History of the Spread of Islam, Tehran, pp. 300,303, 333, 451. In Manipur (Northeast India), the Muslims (locally known as Meitei Pangal) traced their origin to Amir Hamza (who died in Battle of Uhood in 625 AD), Sadik Para (Saad bin Waqqas), Kutwan Khan and Ashim Shah in the reign of Manipur king Naophang Ahal (c. 594-624 AD) with Aribah (Aribam as the first clan) and Makhtum clan as contemporary of it; the latter are noted to have arrived in Manipur either on land route, or ancient silk route or sea-silk route. It is no wonder that Chinese Muslims (Hui) believed that Saad bin Waqqas. Burmese Muslims too traced their origin to Amir Hamza (who were in north Arakan) for some time, before 625 AD and Muhamad al-Hanafiyya bin Ali (685-710 AD) who married local queen Khaya Para. The tomb of the couple (Hanafiyya and Khaya Pari) is still there in Maungdaw, north of Arakan (of Burma, Myanmar now) which is eastern border of Manipur (India). You can just visit and check out its veracity. (just click search engine of Google and you will find everything).

Farooque Ahmed
Manipur University
Department of History

By: Afzal

Afzal — Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:21:03 +0000

Reputable works in Arabic such as Al-Isti’aab and Tazkiratul Huffaaz clearly state that Sa’d Ibn Abi Waqqaas Radhi Allahu Anhu passed away in a place called Aqeeq which is ten miles from Madinah. He was then carried to and burried in Jannatul Baqi in Madinah.

By: Ahmed Ayaz

Ahmed Ayaz — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:43:22 +0000

Bismillah hirRahma nirRaheem
Sallallahu alaa Nabi Wa AAlehi Wa Ashaabehi Wa Barik Wasalam

Why are you people quarling . Does it make sense that chinese made a Mosque and a Roza of Sahaba (Razi Allah Anhu) , to attract all the chinese to come and get impressed of Islam???

Dear muslims its the sign of glory of Islam that what difficult and farther parts of world Sahaba (Razi Allah Anhuma) travelled and preached the Light of Islam.

I think its one of the only Rozaa’s of Ashra Mubashrah which has remained safe from the dirty hands of “Najdi”.

Don’t be deprived of this PEARL only because of doubt.

May Allah set us on Right Paath (AAmeen)

By: Hood

Hood — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:08:45 +0000

please note that sa’d ibn abi waqqas is one person and abi waqqas(the father of waqqas) another person.
the companion r.a. is sa’d the son of the father of waqqas. In other words, sa’d is the brother of waqqas. abu waqqas is the father of both sa’d and waqqas.
the other person is called (abu waqqas) the father of waqqas. who is he ? Definitely not the companion. Allah knows best.

By: umm abdullah

umm abdullah — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:35:02 +0000

aoa while searching on net about islam i found your website very amazing and informative god bless you .Could you please help me about a hadeeth in which companion of profit sent to china to get jazya in early days they agreed to pay jazya but later on they refused claming that couldnot see the fear of allah on their faces as it was observed those who came
at the time of profit saw.
regards
ummabdullah

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Islamic Art Feature: Pick of the Week 10/3/09 | MuslimMatters.org — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:26:40 +0000

[...] check out the photos of what some claim to be the Tomb of Sa`d ibn Abi Waqqas, radiallahu anhu, in Guangzhou, China, taken by Naeem Mayet. There is an interesting discussion in the comments section about the [...]

By: hanzakhan

hanzakhan — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:00:02 +0000

Asslam o Alaikum wr wb ,
for u infromation i tell u that THSI IS THE TOMB OF ABI WAQAS RAZI ALLAH O TAHALA HUN HU , not the saad bin Abi waqas , i live in hong kong near the tomb i been there ,

By: Hameed Jalal

Hameed Jalal — Fri, 29 May 2009 11:08:17 +0000

Assalamu alaikum Writer: S Naqvi,
I read from some records on Muslims in China that Liu Chi, a well known Chinese Historian (who wrote a 12-volume Life of the Prophet in 1721 A.D) sated that Saad Ibn Abi-Waqqas (rad.) arrived in China in 587 A.D., with 3 other companions, then returned to Arab lands some time later. Broomhall, the British Historian in the early 19th Century stated that the same arrival as having taken place in 611 A.D. with almost similar historical references. (Both Historians who calculated the dates based on records of 10 centuries earlier had understandable difficulties with the exact year of the same event, because according to modern calculations the companions were in Abyssinia in 615 A.D.) In otherwords they both were talking about the same event with earlier and different dates. The event (not the years) tallies with the Arab accounts in that when the early Muslims were being persecuted in Makkah some of them migrated to Abyssinia but most of them later came back, including the Abyssinian companion Bilal (rad.). One of the four companions whose names are missing from the list of returnees is Saad (rad.) who is said to have sailed from Abyssinia to China with three others. It has been well documented by Arab Historians, though, that he later lead campaigns to conquer lands north of Madinah and passed away at old age (81 or 82) and was interred in Madinah. It appears highly probable therefore the events may be as follows: That Saad ibn Abi Waqqas (rad.) did arrive in Guangzhou around 616 A.D. or soon after that, stayed for a while and went back to Arabia and passed away and was interred in Madinah several years later. The historical records also state that a copy of the Qur’aan was brought 21 years after the first incident, and the site of these arrivals was an Arab settlement on the banks of the Pearl River with a light house in which later became the minarette of the Mosque of Holy Rememberance, described by the writer Wan in the previous message. The ‘Waqqas’ Tomb which is further north might be the tomb of the bringer of the Quraan 21 years later or some other Muslim dignitory. The name may be purely coincidal or concocted. Well this is my theory but Chinese scholars I spoke to seem to be scheptical. Allah a’lam. Further research is needed. Wassalam.

By: Wan

Wan — Fri, 15 May 2009 15:57:15 +0000

I have been to GZ a few times but only to Huaisheng Mosque. Could you tell me where is this tomb of Sa’d ibn Abi Waqqas? Is it near to the mosque?
Definitely according to Muslim historians, the maternal uncle of our beloved Prophet s.a.w. died and buried in al-Madinah, but the “maqam” of Sa’d indeed was in GZ (as per picture). I deduced that great Sahaba was in China, and the Muslims there commemorated his presence with a “maqam” which later was mistaken as a grave.
Wan